National Press Club Conference:
Pilots Speak Out About UFOs

On November 12th, 2007, at the National Press Club in
In all, fourteen men spoke at the press conference, some of them very well known
in UFO circles, some not so well known. All of them, though, shared the same
goal – to let the public know that UFOs exist and are not only seen by
hillbillies out in the boondocks.
First to speak was Wilfried De Brower. Now retired, Major-General De Brower was
a leading colonel in the Belgian air force in 1990 when a famous wave of UFO
sightings took place. General De Brower said:
“I was Chief Operations in the Air Staff when an exceptional UFO wave took place
over
He concluded: “The Belgian Air Force tried to identify the alleged intruder(s)
and, on three occasions, launched F 16 aircraft. On one occasion, two F 16
registered rapid changes in speed and altitude which were well outside of the
performance envelope of existing aircraft. Nevertheless, the pilots could not
establish visual contact and the investigation revealed that specific weather
conditions may have caused electromagnetic interferences and false returns on
the radar screens. The technical evidence was insufficient to conclude that
abnormal air activities took place during that evening.
“In short, the Belgian UFO wave was exceptional and the Air Force could not
identify the nature, origin and intentions of the reported phenomena.”
Dr Claude Poher is a retired astrophysicist and worked with GEPAN, the French
study on UFOs, often described as
“[In] August 1967, two young witnesses were alerted by the agitation of dozens
of frightened farm animals at around noon. The witnesses then observed a landed
spherical UFO at a distance of 80 yards, with four occupants near it.

“Very high luminosity was reported after slow takeoff, leaving physiological
effects on the witnesses’ eyes that were confirmed by the village mayor. The
hiss noise described by the two witnesses was also heard by the hunting guard of
the village. The UFO acceleration after vertical takeoff was estimated to be
about a hundred g’s by GEPAN experts. The occupants were seen floating in the
air while entering the craft, from its top, in a hurry.
“Physical traces on the ground from the craft were confirmed by the local
police, as well as a sulphur oxide odour. CNES experts in meteorology and space
debris worked in the field with the witnesses, along with a judge, a
psychologist, an optical engineer and aeronautical engineer. They had full
measuring equipment and worked with the police as well.
“The official conclusion of GEPAN in 1979, was that about 15% of cases remained
unidentified after careful analysis by our experts. We concluded that the
objects, in most of these cases, were compatible with flying machines whose
flight physics were foreign to the experts’ knowledge.”
Another French contribution came from Jean-Charles Duboc, a retired Air
“During Air France Flight 3532 from Nice to
“That object had been identified initially by a steward who was in the cockpit
and by the co-pilot as a weather balloon, but when I identified it, it looked
quite different.
“It seemed to be a huge flying disc.
“This large object was below us at the altitude of 35, 000 ft (we were at 39 000
ft), at a distance of about 25 nautical miles.
“The colour was red-brown with blurred outlines.
“The apparent diameter of this object could be compared to the diameter of the
moon, or the sun. That means that it was about 1000 feet wide.
“The most incredible aspect is that it became transparent and disappeared in
about 10 to 20 seconds.
“My co-pilot, chief steward and I quickly realized that what we were seeing did
not resemble anything known to us, and we reported our sighting to
Simultaneously, the radar of the Operational Centre of the Air Defence (the
CODA), registered a one minute spot crossing the track of our plane.”
The final statement from
“The COMETA report was written mainly by high ranking military people from the
French High Studies Institute for National Defence. It analyzes the possible
explanations for UFOs and their implications in terms of Defence, with the
extraterrestrial hypothesis presented as the most logical one, even if not
formally proven. Some recommendations are made, including that all managers of
the Army, Police, Politics, and pilots be informed about UFOs; that detection
systems be modified to take UFOs into account; and that the French government
contact the United States and other allied countries to initiate cooperative
action on the subject. So far, these recommendations have not been implemented.
“However, last March, my country took a big step forward. Jacques Patenet,
current director of GEIPAN, released the French UFO files to the public. They
were posted on a website - more than 1,600 sightings spanning five decades. Some
cases involved multiple sightings and physical evidence such as burn marks and
radar trackings. Others documented UFOs with flight patterns or accelerations
defying the laws of physics. M. Patenet told the press at the time that "We do
not have any proof at all that extra-terrestrials are behind the unexplained
phenomena. Nor do we have any proof at all that they aren't.”
“My personal opinion is that UFOs should be taken seriously and studied without
prejudice. There may be several possible explanations, such as rare atmospheric
phenomena, but some cases strongly suggest actual flying machines with
characteristics well beyond our terrestrial capacities. If these cases could be
completely proven as such, then the extraterrestrial hypothesis would probably
be the most likely explanation for these advanced craft. Admittedly, it is a
fantastic possibility, but not an irrational one, given the data that we have.”
Parvez Jafari is a retired general, formerly with the Iranian air force. In
1976, he was a major and squadron commander and encountered something in the
skies above
“At about 11 pm on the evening of 18th September, 1976, citizens were frightened
by the circling of an unknown object over
“They reported it to the tower and it was seen by the tower man too. He alerted
the Air Force command post and Deputy General Yousefi decided to scramble an F-4
jet to investigate.
“The pilot in the first jet lost instrumentation and communications when he got
too close to the brilliant object, so he headed back. About 10 minutes later,
they scrambled a second jet, which I was piloting. At the time I was squadron
commander.
“I approached the object, which was flashing with intense red, green, orange and
blue light so bright that I was not able to see its body. The sequence of
flashes was extremely fast, like a strobe light.
“We locked on it with radar; it was at 30° left, at a range of 25 miles. The
size on the radar scope was comparable to that of a 707 tanker.
“Four other objects with different shapes separated from the main one, at
different times during this close encounter.
“Whenever they were close to me, my weapons were jammed and my radio
communications were garbled.
“One of the objects headed toward me. I thought it was a missile. I tried to
launch a heat seeking missile to it, but my missile panel went out. Another
followed me when I was descending on the way back.
“One of the separated objects landed in an open area radiating a high bright
light, in which the sands on the ground were visible.
“During my interview at H.Q, after the incident, an American colonel took notes,
but after it was over I could not find him to talk with.
“Later, a once-classified document was released here in
Captain Rodrigo Bravo Garrido is a pilot for the Chilean army. He spoke of his
country’s efforts to get a handle on the UFO phenomenon:
“Since the beginning of Chilean history, there have been reports of unidentified
phenomena, sometimes called UFOs, observed in our skies.
“Over the years, we have increased our capacity to explain many of the
sightings, but some continue to remain without a scientific or logical
explanation.
“For that reason, in October of 1997, the Department of Civil Aeronautics, the
Chilean equivalent of the American FAA, set up the Committee for the Study of
Anomalous Aerial Phenomena, known as the CEFAA. This agency handles the best
reports of unidentified aerial phenomena in cooperation with aeronautic
specialists.
“In 2000, the Aviation branch of the Army of Chile assigned me to research
anomalous aerial phenomena, which they knew were real, and their effect on
aerospace security. I then graduated to become a military pilot, and learned
that the Aviation Amy had in its files many reports of UFO incidents from
military pilots.
“A link was then established between our Army office and the CEFAA, and as a
result, nine official cases have been documented. This has helped to create
awareness among the flight crews about UFOs, and they now cooperate with flight
security to report any abnormal situation.
“One of our most important civil aviation cases occurred in 1988, showing that
unidentified flying objects can be a danger for air operations. A Boeing 737
pilot, on a final approach to the runway at “The Tepual” Airport in

“In 2000, the crew of a Chilean plane from the Aviation branch of the Army,
flying South of Santiago, observed a long cigar-shaped object, a brilliant grey.
It flew parallel to the right side of the aircraft for two minutes and then
disappeared at a very high speed. This object was detected by the radar of the
Control Centre of Santiago which notified the crew minutes before the incident.
“New cases are being documented by pilots, traffic controllers, operations staff
at the world’s airports, and by many others with the proper training to
determine if a flying object is something unusual.
“The true origin of these UFOs is unknown, yet they do affect aviation all
around the planet, and this must be addressed.”
Now retired, Oscar Alfonso Santa Maria Huertas was a commander in the Peruvian
sir force. In 1980, he witnessed something inexplicable:
“On April 11, 1980, at 7:15 in the morning, 1800 men were in formation at the
Air Base of La Joya,
“They all observed a stationary object in the sky which looked like a balloon,
at about three miles distance, and approximately 1,800 feet altitude. It was
luminous because it reflected the sun.
“My unit commander ordered me to takeoff in my Sukoi -22 jet to shoot down the
spherical object. It was in restricted airspace, without clearance, and we were
concerned about espionage.
“I approached the object and strafed sixty-four 30mm shells at it. Some
projectiles went towards the ground, and others hit the object fully, but they
had no effect at all. The projectiles didn’t bounce off; probably they were
absorbed. The cone-shaped “wall of fire” that I sent out would normally
obliterate anything in its path.
“The object then began to ascend, and move farther away from the base. When I
was at about 36,000 ft., it made a sudden stop, forcing me to veer to the side
since I was only 1500 feet away. I flew up higher to attack it from above, but
just as I had locked on to the target and was ready to shoot, the object made a
straight vertical climb evading the attack.
“Two more times I had the object on target, when the object was stationary. Each
time, it moved away at the very last minute, when I was just about to fire,
always eluding my attack.
“I decided to climb at full thrust to get above the object, but it began to
ascend almost parallel to my plane, and when I reached 63,000 ft., it stopped.
“At this point, I came to within about 300 feet of the UFO. It was about 30 feet
in diameter. It was an enamelled, cream-colored dome, with a wide, circular,
metallic base. It had no engines, no exhausts, no windows, no wings or antennae.
It lacked all the typical aircraft components, with no visible propulsion
system.
“It was at that moment that I realized this it was not a spying device, but that
it was a UFO, something totally unknown. I was almost out of fuel, so I couldn’t
attack or manoeuvre my plane, or make a high speed escape. I was afraid. I
thought I might be finished.
“When I had calmed own, I radioed for another plane to come and have a look,
trying to hide my fear. They said no, it’s too high, just come back. I had to
glide part way down due to lack of fuel, zigzagging to make my plane harder to
hit, always with my eyes on the rear-view mirrors hoping it wouldn’t chase me.
It didn’t.
“I had spent 22 minutes manoeuvring with this object. After I landed, the object
remained stationary in the sky for two hours, for everyone at the base to see.”
Dr Anthony Choy is a founding member of the Peruvian air force’s official study
into UFOs, the Office of Investigations of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena (OIFAA),
set up in 2001. He said:
“I am the author of Project 33, the
first integral study on the UFO phenomenon in
“On October 13, 2001, in the northern city of
“A few days later, on October 25th, the luminous tear-shaped object of some 25
meters diameter (approx. 80 feet), was recorded over the countryside near the
city. Within a few minutes, the apparent “landing” of light spheres in the woods
was also recorded.”
Officially tasked with investigating the case, Choy said:
“The preliminary conclusion was that the sightings, although being physically
real, had no explanation. The case remains open, and the investigation continues
independently.”
Captain Ray Bowyer is a pilot with Guernsey-based airline, Aurigny.
UFO DATA Magazine reported his
sighting last year. Here is some of what he said at the conference:
“I have been invited here due to my sighting last April of multiple as yet
unidentified objects over the Channel Islands region of the
“On nearing the object a second identical shape appeared beyond the first. Both
objects were of a flattened disk shape with a dark area to the right side. They
were brilliant yellow with light emanating from them. I estimated them to be up
to a mile across.
“I found myself astounded but curious. But at 12 miles distant these objects
were becoming uncomfortably large, and I was glad to descend and land the
aircraft.
“Many of my passengers saw the objects as did the pilot of another aircraft 25
miles further south. There is also possible radar information still being
investigated.
“I have taken note of the differences between the British and
“Air Law stipulates quite clearly that if an operating crew of an aircraft see
another aircraft in a place that it should not be, then at the earliest
opportunity the whole scenario is to be reported to the relevant authority. In
my case the British Civil Aviation Authority knew within 20 minutes of the
sighting what was seen, as described in the flight log faxed directly to the
relevant CAA office. The military were informed by Jersey Air Traffic Control at
the same time. This is not an option; it is an obligation that crews react in
this manner.”
He notes that US pilots and airline staff are often afraid to come forward for
fear of ridicule or job security. He went on:
“I would have been shocked if I was told that the CAA would obstruct an
investigation, or if the CAA told me that what I had seen was something entirely
different. But it seems that pilots in
“I would urge all aircrew to report whatever they see as soon as possible, and
to stand up and be counted. It is only when crucial witnesses, such as
professional pilots, make reports that the authorities will be kick-started into
a broader investigation of these phenomena.”
UFO DATA Magazine
contributor, Nick Pope, was next. We all know Nick as ‘the Man from the
Ministry’ and he spoke of his experiences while working there:
“Since 1950 the British Government has received over 10,000 UFO reports.
Responsibility for this subject rests with the Ministry of Defence, whose remit
is to look for evidence of any potential threat to the
“Most UFO sightings turned out to be misidentifications of things such as
aircraft, satellites and meteors, but in around 5 per cent of cases no
explanation could be found. These cases include incidents where reliable
witnesses such as police officers and pilots reported structured craft
performing speeds and manoeuvres significantly in excess of anything they had
seen military jet aircraft perform. Other cases included in this category
involved UFOs tracked on radar and incidents where photos or videos were
produced and where the MoD's technical experts found no evidence of fakery.
“The MoD takes no position on the nature of the UFO phenomenon but I and some of
my colleagues were privately convinced that whatever was going on, there were
important defence, national security and flight safety issues involved.
In March 1993 I investigated a case where a UFO was seen by about 60 witnesses,
including military personnel at two air force bases. Witnesses included a patrol
of air force police, together with a meteorological officer with 8 years
experience. This latter witness described a triangular-shaped craft midway in
size between a C-130 and a Boeing 747. He said that it was emitting a low
frequency humming sound and he said it moved slowly at first, before
accelerating away many times faster than a military jet. My Head of Division's
brief to the Assistant Chief of the Air Staff concluded: “In summary, there
would seem to be some evidence on this occasion that an unidentified object (or
objects) of unknown origin was operating over the
Jim Penniston was the senior security officer at the
“Shortly after midnight on the 26th of December, 1980, Staff Sergeant Steffens
briefed me that some lights were seen in
“When we arrived near the suspected crash site it quickly became apparent that
we were not dealing with a plane crash or anything else we’d ever responded to.
There was a bright light emanating from an object on the forest floor. As we
approached it on foot, a silhouetted triangular craft about 9 feet long by 6.5
feet high came into view. The craft was fully intact sitting in a small clearing
inside the woods.
“As the three of us got closer to the craft we started experiencing problems
with our radios. I then asked Cabansag to relay radio transmissions back to the
control centre. Burroughs and I proceeded towards the craft.
“When we came up on the triangular shaped craft there were blue and yellow
lights swirling around the exterior as though part of the surface and the air
around us was electrically charged. We could feel it on our cloths, skin and
hair. Nothing in my training prepared me for what we were witnessing.
“After ten minutes without any apparent aggression, I determined the craft was
non hostile to my team or to the base. Following security protocol, we completed
a thorough on-site investigation, including a full physical examination of the
craft. This included photographs, notebook entries, and radio relays through
airman Cabansag to the control centre as required. On one side of the craft were
symbols that measured about 3 inches high and two and a half feet across.
“These symbols were pictorial in design; the largest symbol was a triangle,
which was centred in the middle of the others. These symbols were etched into
the surface of the craft, which was warm to the touch and felt like metal.
“After roughly 45 minutes the light from the craft began to intensify. Burroughs
and I then took a defensive position away from the craft as it lifted off the
ground without any noise or air disturbance. It manoeuvred through the trees and
shot off at an unbelievable rate of speed. It was gone in the blink of an eye.”
In 1980, Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Halt was deputy base commander at RAF
Bentwaters in
“ In late December 1980 I was called upon to investigate a strange event that
was distracting our Security Police from their primary duties. Early on the
morning of December 26, 1980 our police patrolmen discovered strange lights in
the forest east of the back gate of RAF Woodbridge. Three patrolmen were
dispatched into the forest to investigate. They reported discovering a strange
triangular craft sitting on three legs. The craft was approximately 3 meters on
a side. The craft had multiple lights. It rapidly manoeuvred and quickly left
the area. I was not immediately aware of the details only being told of strange
lights and assumed there was a reasonable explanation.
“Two nights later the family Christmas party was interrupted by the on duty
police commander. He told of strange events and claimed “it” was back. Since my
boss had to present awards I was tasked to go out and investigate. I fully
expected to find an explanation. I took two senior Security Police, a Disaster
Preparedness expert and the reporting On Duty Police Commander. At the site we
found the three 1 ½” indentations in the ground in a triangular pattern.
“We discovered mild radiation, and evidence including broken branches. We
suddenly observed a bright red/orange oval object with a black center. It
reminded me of an eye and appeared as though blinking. It maneuvered
horizontally through the trees with occasionally vertical movement. When
approached it receded and silently broke into five white lights which quickly
vanished. We moved out of the forest into a pasture and observed several objects
with multiple lights in the Northern sky. They changed in shape from elliptical
to round.
“Several other objects were seen to the South. One approached at high speed and
sent down a concentrated beam near our feet. Another object sent down beams into
the weapons storage area. The whole time we had difficulty communicating with
the base as all three radio frequencies kept breaking up. This activity
continued for about an hour.
“During this entire event I had my pocket recorder and taped the event as it
unfolded. A copy of the tape was released without my knowledge. This is the
original recorder and tape. I have no idea what we saw but do know whatever we
saw was under intelligent control.”
John Callahan was Division Chief for the Federal Aviation Authority’s (FAA)
Accident and Investigation Branch in
“In early January of 1987, I received a call from the Air Traffic Quality
Control Branch in FAA's Alaskan regional office, requesting guidance on what to
tell the media personnel who were overflowing their office. The media was
requesting information about the UFO that chased a Japanese 747 across the
Alaskan sky for some 3 minutes at flight levels between 3,000 and 35,000 ft. on
November 7, 1986.
“Japan Air Lines flight 628, a cargo jet with a pilot, co-pilot and one crew
member, was just north of
“Over the course of 3 minutes, the UFO jumped miles in a few seconds, changing
places to different spots around the 747, in one sweep of the radar scope.
“After receiving the data from
“The print out and radar play back displayed primary targets in the vicinity of
the 747. These target returns were displayed about the same time and place as
the pilot advised viewing the UFO. Both the radar and manual controller observed
the primary target. The military controllers also viewed the primary target on
their radar and identified it as a “double primary”. The pilot and crew viewed
the target on their radar and were able to see the huge UFO at the same time as
it approached their aircraft.
“If this craft had been a Learjet or military aircraft at the wrong altitude,
that would have been clear. The FAA has procedures that cover tracking
unidentified aircraft violating another's airspace - but it has no procedures
for UFOs.
“Back at FAA headquarters, I gave Administrator Engen a quick briefing and
showed him the video. He set up a briefing with President Reagan's scientific
staff, and told me my function was to give them a dog and pony show and hand
this event off to them, “since the FAA does not deal with UFO's.” I brought
along a copy of the video and all the data print outs available at the time. One
of the scientists asked a number of questions, such as, what is the range of the
radar, what is the frequency of the radar, what is the band width, what is the
formula for the height equipment, etc.

“I was impressed with the response from the FAA experts. At the end, one of the
three people from the CIA said, “This event never happened. We were never here.
We’re confiscating all this data and you are all sworn to secrecy.”
“Some time after the briefing, the detailed FAA report which included extensive
interviews with the pilot and crew, the chart prepared at the Tech Centre; and
facility voice tapes arrived at my office and were placed on a small table
waiting for the CIA to request more data. The material stayed there until I
retired 2 years later, and I've had it ever since. Most people including FAA
controllers really aren't familiar with how the FAA radar system works and why
all aircraft travelling through our airspace are not caught on radar or
displayed on the controllers PVD. But I am. The system and organization of the
FAA is not configured to identify and track these types of performances.”
Conference moderator, Fife Symington, then gave his own statement:
“In 1997, during my second term as Governor of Arizona, I saw something that
defied logic and challenged my reality. I witnessed a massive delta-shaped craft
silently navigating over the

“To my astonishment this apparition appeared, and it was a solid structure;
dramatically large with a very distinctive leading edge including embedded
lights. It was travelling through the
“I
now know that I am not alone in witnessing something extraordinary. There are
many high ranking military, aviation and government officials who share my
concerns; some of them have joined me here today. There is absolutely no doubt
as to the veracity of what these men have told you. They have fought in wars,
guarded top secret weapons arsenals and flown countless passengers throughout
the world’s skies.
“Incidents like these are not going away. One year ago,
“We want the
“When it comes to events of this nature dealing with the great unknown, we
deserve more openness and a serious pursuit of the facts by our government.”
Despite a lot of press coverage (for what is basically a UFO story), with pieces
appearing on the BBC, CNN, MSNBC and Fox News to name but a few, there has been
little reaction to this event. Much the same happened with the Disclosure
Project Press Conference in 2001, but that event was soon overshadowed by 9/11.
If a group of highly credible individuals cannot stir up some interest among the
general public and mainstream media with their experiences, what is it going to
take to push ufology from the ‘loony pages’ to the headlines? Would even a
flying saucer landing on the White House lawn be enough, I wonder?
The full transcripts of the witness statements can be read at
www.freedomofinfo.org/national_press.htm